Badis dibruensis, a new species

Hi.

Here is the PDF of the discribtion:

http://www.threatenedtaxa.org/ZooPrintJ ... 44-647.pdf

cheers tobi

LOL it clearly wasn't my WR

Hi!
Could pretty well be "Wahumiam River". As in the description of dibruensis males of "Wahumiam River" in full colour show no bars and the females only show spots.
What's puzzling me is the fact, that B. badis is always described without a spot between third and fifth dorsal spine. I never saw a B. badis without that spot. And I don't think I've got a lot of B. kanabos, chittagongis und dibruensis swimming around in my aquaria.
Charly

Nah they're too different, also biogeographically. My big male used to show bars when in full colouration most of the time. Furthermore; I doubt dibruensis very much and also very doubt it doesn't have bars.

I too haven't seen any B. badis without that anterior dorsal fin spot; it's simply always present thusfar.

Hi, Stefan!
I too doubt dibruensis. I think it's something else with the bars gone due to alcohol conservation.
You remember, that I was very sceptical with "Wahumiam" being a valid species? They look like B. badis according to the usual spots, dots and bars, although the bars are normally not visible. In the young ones and in stress colour, they are. But "WR" has a dark spot on the chin like ferrarisi and sp "Buxar" and also pointed ventrals.
And in their behaviour they are as lively as both of them.
Charly

Hi, Stefan!
I too doubt dibruensis. I think it's something else with the bars gone due to alcohol conservation.
You remember, that I was very sceptical with "Wahumiam" being a valid species? They look like B. badis according to the usual spots, dots and bars, although the bars are normally not visible. In the young ones and in stress colour, they are. But "WR" has a dark spot on the chin like ferrarisi and sp "Buxar" and also pointed ventrals.
And in their behaviour they are as lively as both of them.
Charly

Alcohol preservation can't rid bars to the best of my knowledge. I do see what seems to be heavy depigmentation in the type specimens and I suspect that's the cause. Until I see pristine preserved or even live material I remain skeptical about this taxon.

Yes I remember. Please do explain the chin spot you mention, could you point it out with photos for WR, ferrarisi and Buxar because I'm not sure I understand.

Hi, Stefan!
WR, Buxar and ferrarisi have a black chin going from the lower lip to half the length of the head. On pictures it is not visible normally, because most pictures show the fish from the side.
Charly

Hi, Stefan!
WR, Buxar and ferrarisi have a black chin going from the lower lip to half the length of the head. On pictures it is not visible normally, because most pictures show the fish from the side.
Charly

Could you make me some photos fron ventral aspect then and point them out please? I think you're describing suborbital bars.

Hi, Stefan!
No suborbital bars.
A longitudinal inconspicuous stripe from mouth to middle of the throat.
Only visible on the ventral side of the fish.
Charly

Hey Charly and Stefan!
If you both want to exchange some fishes i am in Arcen this weekend - let me know...

Hey Charly and Stefan!
If you both want to exchange some fishes i am in Arcen this weekend - let me know...

I have nothing to exchange. Sorry. You?

Hi, Stefan!
No suborbital bars.
A longitudinal inconspicuous stripe from mouth to middle of the throat.
Only visible on the ventral side of the fish.
Charly

You mean the black patch? If not; show me on photos because I don't see it and I've looked at all my fish.