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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9774</link>
                        <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It should be stigmosa (spelled wrong in Juilian&#039;s list). Also from the splendens group stiktos is missing in the list  Haven&#039;t imported any of the new species, some might be possible but I d...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It should be stigmosa (spelled wrong in Juilian's list). Also from the splendens group stiktos is missing in the list <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="" /> Haven't imported any of the new species, some might be possible but I don't have the space right now for more. Though all Sumatran fusca are raja so there's a new species all around us already. Don't know what those from Banka are though....they're not supposed to be fusca....]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/">Labyrinther allgemein</category>                        <dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9772</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@all
gast war ich hatte mich nich eingeloggt!!!
Asche über mein Haupt :roll:      

thx thorsten]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_bier.gif" alt=":bier:" title="" /> 
@all
gast war ich hatte mich nich eingeloggt!!!
Asche über mein Haupt :roll:  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/5magnify.gif" alt="O-" />  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/5magnify.gif" alt="O-" />  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/5magnify.gif" alt="O-" />

thx thorsten]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9771</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[@klaus

schade!!
wenn dein bruder öfters beim bssw/igl treffen ist --wird gedrüsst      

gruß aus hamburg

habt ihr denn Erfahrung mit importieren von Fisch(Wildfang)???]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[@klaus

schade!!
wenn dein bruder öfters beim bssw/igl treffen ist --wird gedrüsst <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/5bouncy.gif" alt=":bounce:" />  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="" />  <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="" /> 

gruß aus hamburg

habt ihr denn Erfahrung mit importieren von Fisch(Wildfang)???]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9769</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Stefan, hi klaus,

...

Have you both contact to a Betta friend in asia? to import some of the newest bettas??




Hallo Thorsten, 

kurz und knapp: Nein.

Gruß, Klaus


P...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Hi Stefan, hi klaus,

...

Have you both contact to a Betta friend in asia? to import some of the newest bettas??


</blockquote>

Hallo Thorsten, 

kurz und knapp: Nein.

Gruß, Klaus


PS: Falls Du meinen in HH lebenden Bruder triffst, grüße ihn schön ;-)]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/">Labyrinther allgemein</category>                        <dc:creator>Klaus de Leuw</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9768</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Stefan, hi klaus,


I ´ve found a list on betta club singapore  :written by julian (moderator)
must do this on this way, cause don´t know to paste the pdf-file!! (sorry Julian)

Hav...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Stefan, hi klaus,


I ´ve found a list on betta club singapore  :written by julian (moderator)
must do this on this way, cause don´t know to paste the pdf-file!! (sorry Julian)

Have you both contact to a Betta friend in asia? to import some of the newest bettas??


List from Betta Club Singapore:

Betta bellica group

Betta bellica : Malaysia;Sumatra
betta simorum : Sumatra


Betta pugnax group

Betta pugnax : Malaysia;Sumatra
Betta fusca : Sumatra
Betta schalleri : Sumatra
Betta prima : Thailand; Cambodia
Betta enisae : Kalimantan
Betta pulchra : Malaysia (Johor*)
Betta breviobesus : Kalimantan (Kapuas*)
#Betta lehi : Sarawak*;Kalimantan (Kapuas)
#Betta stigmosus : Malaysia ( Terengganu*)


Betta akarensis group

Betta akarensis : Sarawak (north to central*)
Betta balunga : Sabah; Kalimantan
Betta chini :Sabah
Betta pinguis : Kalimantan Barat(kapuas*)
Betta aurigans : Natuna Besar*
Betta ibanorum: Sarawak
#Betta obscura : kalimantan Tengah


Betta unimaculata group

Betta unimaculata : Kalimantan Timur (Kayan*)
Betta macrostoma : Sarawak(north Sarawak*), ; Brunei (Belait District)
Betta patoti : Kalimantan Timur
Betta ocellata : Sabah, Kalimantan Timur
#Betta gladiator : Sabah
#Batta pallifina : Kalamantan Tengah (upper Barito*)


Betta picta group

Betta pica : Java (Bogor*)
Betta taeniata : Sarawak (south Sarawak*)
Betta simplex : Thailand (South Thailand-Krabi*)
Betta falx : Sumatra (Jambi*)


Betta splendens group


Betta coccina group

Betta coccina : Sumatra (Jambi*), Malaysia (Johor)
Betta tussyae : Malaysia (Pahang*)
Betta persephone : Malaysia (Johor*)
Betta rutilans (Kapuas*)
Betta brownorum : Sarawak (central* to south )
Betta livida : Malaysia (Selangor*)
Betta miniopinna : Sumatra (Riau-Bintan*)
Betta burdigala : Sumatre (Banka*)


Betta waseri group

Betta waseri: Malaysia (Pahang*,Terengganu, Kuantan)
Betta hipposideros: Malaysia(Selangor*), Sumatra(Riau)
Betta spilotogena : Sumatra(Riau-Binta*,Singkep)
Betta chloropharynx: Sumatra (Banka*)
Betta renata : Sumatra (Jambi*, South Sumatra)
Betta pi: Thailand (south Thailand-Sungai Kolok*); Malaysia (Kelantan)


Betta edithae group

Betta edithae: Kalimantan Selatan*, Bintan


Betta foerschi group

Betta foerschi : Kalimantan Tengah(Mentaya*)
Betta strohi : Kalimantan Tengah (Sukamara*)
Betta rubra : Sumatra ( North Sumatra*, Aceh)


Betta anabatoides group

Betta anabatoides: Kalimantan Selatan*, 


Betta albimarginata group

Betta albimarginata : Kalimantan
Betta channoides: Kalimantan


Betta <i>dimidiata group

Betta <i>dimidiata: Kalimantan Barat (Kapuas*)


# New species
* Type locality]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9744</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Klaus, thank you very much! I won&#039;t translate anymore. Norbert wrote me how terrible the translator German was and said I could write in English haha! He was right. 

Please don&#039;t apolo...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Klaus, thank you very much! I won't translate anymore. Norbert wrote me how terrible the translator German was and said I could write in English haha! He was right. <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="" />

Please don't apologise for your English; it's not bad at all. Please do feel free to write in German; I understand most of it.

As long as we're talking about new species: someone is describing sp. Mahachai right now <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="" /> And with any luck, someone will work on the foeschi group; I think a lot of new species will be named for that group. But that's just a guess; I haven't heard anyone actually working on them (which doesn't mean no noe is....).]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9743</link>
                        <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hello Stefan, 

I think, your english ist much easier to understand than any german produced by translating machines. Please don´t let translate your very interesting postings!

So long!...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello Stefan, 

I think, your english ist much easier to understand than any german produced by translating machines. Please don´t let translate your very interesting postings!

So long!
Klaus

Excuse me, but my english ist very broken! javascript&#058;emoticon(':D')]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9742</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Some of the new species have been waiting for years. Probably they decided to do a lot of species in two papers at once, thus easier. Stiktos. A very interesting one if you ask me! It looks ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Some of the new species have been waiting for years. Probably they decided to do a lot of species in two papers at once, thus easier. Stiktos. A very interesting one if you ask me! It looks like the actual wild splendens only it has dots on its dorsal fin; black transverse bars on the caudal fin. They come from Cambodia, the Mekong drainage. There's very, very little known about this species. Perhaps someone here has collected them in the past? No live photos available (looking myself too), yet....

Gladiator interests me as Tan &amp; Ng couldn't keep two specimens together as they were <u>always</u> fighting heavily. So far no live photos of:

cracens
stiktos
obscura
pallifina (description shows a photo of live fish on a plate, not in the water  so colours are different)
rubra

And also none of aurigans (from a different paper). So if anyone has photos of one or more of these species.... :)

I have photos of all the rest in my new paper except pallifina and gladiator. For more/other photos you can check on the Petfrd forum.

Raja is interesting as well: the paper says 99 % of all fusca we have is raja and that live fusca hasn't been collected for a long, long time and is curently only known from the type series.

Some photos:

<img class="go2wpf-bbcode" src="http://img&#046;photobucket&#046;com/albums/v81/MrTree/Labyrinth%20Fish/Betta/Betta_fusca_Male&#046;jpg">
Betta raja

<img class="go2wpf-bbcode" src="http://www&#046;ikanpemburu&#046;com/Picture/article_betta_terengganu&#046;jpg">
Betta stigmosa

<img class="go2wpf-bbcode" src="http://www&#046;ibanorum&#046;netfirms&#046;com/lehi0805&#046;jpg">
Betta lehi]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/">Labyrinther allgemein</category>                        <dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9741</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hi Stefan!

Glad to see you here - i&#039;m pretty surprised about such a lot of new species in such a short period of time.
Maybe you can tell me something about Betta stiktos - is it as simi...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi Stefan!

Glad to see you here - i'm pretty surprised about such a lot of new species in such a short period of time.
Maybe you can tell me something about Betta stiktos - is it as similar to splendens as imbellis is, or are there more differences between this new species and the former splendens-typed fish?
How does it look like? Are there already photos available on the net?

Longing for answers <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="" />,
Ric]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Neue Betta-Arten?</title>
                        <link>https://www.igl-home.de/community/labyrinther-allgemein/neue-betta-arten/#post-9739</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[They made type errors and should be stigmosa and raja. I wrote a large summary of all the new species plus photos, hopefully it&#039;s in the next Makropode. If you want to know more please put d...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[They made type errors and should be stigmosa and raja. I wrote a large summary of all the new species plus photos, hopefully it's in the next Makropode. If you want to know more please put down your questions here; I'll be more than happy to answer them!

Oh and rubra is ressurected as a valid species belonging to the foerschi group :)]]></content:encoded>
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