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nickaos
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Hi everyone,
I bought two pairs of rutilans a month ago from Colin Dunlop.
tonight there is a mouthbreeding male, they have not the color of rutilans, can you help me to indentified this fish


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bartian
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Betta brownorum is known to mouthbrood at certain conditions depending on catch locality and strain.
Still, this is quite a rare but very interesting phenomenon.


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R.Brode
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Hello Nicolas!

Could you please make a picture where we can see the whole fish?
Does Colin know anything about their origin?
Perhaps it might be B. sp. "Wajok", hard to say, but it should definitly not be rutilans as far as I can see in this pictures.

Regards, Richard

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Nicolas wundert sich darüber, dass die Fische die er als B.rutilans gekauft hat untypisch aussehen und wohl maulbrüten.
Ich bitte ihn, aussagekräftigere Bilder zu posten und stelle fest, dass es sich höchstwahrscheinlich nicht um rutilans handelt, möglicherweise jedoch um sp. Wajok.

viele Grüße , Richard Fischer, geb. Brode

IGL120


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nickaos
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I do not succed to have a pics of the other male.
male



female


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bartian
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That is definitely not B. brownorum. It looks like uberis to me. It closely resembles my uberis from Kubu. Kubu is quite near to rutilans's habitat, so that could be possible. My fish make a very small bubble nest(only a few bubbles) in a canister. Never seen them mouthbrood, altough I also have never seen eggs in the nest. Still young grow up. Perhaps also uberis sometimes uses it's mouth?

The fish on the third picture is no uberis, nor is it brownorum. That one could be rutilans, but maybe it represents a new, undescribed species?


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R.Brode
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The males are not uberis! B. uberis would have lot more dorsal rays!

viele Grüße , Richard Fischer, geb. Brode

IGL120


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bartian
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Yes, off course you're right. I didn't see that.
The first one to come in mind was B. coccina, but that one doesn't live anywhere near rutilans or brownorum.

I have never seen brownorum with such a green spot, so it looks the most like coccina or livida. Strange breeding behaviour though.


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